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it's a terrible mistake. >> it we take the votes of 3/4 to force the sale of the team. shelly sterling plans to fight it. >> president putin took to the ice with the kind of confidence that only comes when you know you simply cannot lose. >> putin holds six goals and five assists and team putin won 21-4. >> wow, this guy can do everything. is the world doing enough to bring back our girls? that's the question so many are asking with the release of the new unsettling video from boko haram, the terrorist group that kidnapped the 276 nigerian school girls. that video shows them veiled and prayering and boko haram's leader offers to strike a deal.
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>> he's asking for the release of imprisoned boko haram militants, a demand he's made before without any traction. they've similarly had little luck cracking down on the strong holds where other countries are now sending assist aengs, including a small u.s. group supporting this search. john brennan downplayed america's involvement. >> you have cia officers in the ground in nigeria right now snu. >> in many parts of the world so
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we're able to bring to bear the capabilities we need and help our partners in nigeria with technology and expertise. >> so is the u.s. doing enough? what would the cost be of more direct intervention and are there hidden consequences to bolstering nigeria and other forces against this threat? i'm joined by dan o shae, a hostage negotiator in iraq and former navy s.e.a.l. daniel, thank you for joining us. why not a navy s.e.a.l. operation like the one we used to take out bin laden in pack stn? >> i think the directive of the cia kind of alluded, there's already a footprint on the ground. the fact this is not a u.s. national security interest, not american citizens or school children or young american girls. these are nigerian citizens therefore we'll assist and advise but for us to put u.s. footprint in a larger way than we have is probably unlikely
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going to happen. >> it is true boko haram, unlike al qaeda has not struck against americans yet but they've shown ambitions to do so. the rhetoric they are using is anti-american. is that a threat we should be working harder to preeliminate? >> they are a different flavor of al qaeda. affiliated with them and done training with them. they represent the same ideology, part of this larger, encroaching extremist strand of islam that is now spreading wider and unchecked in many parts of the world and large parts of africa and night yeeri dealing with this specifically. take somalia or al qaeda and islam islamic magrab. part of the same. >> these girls are hidden in a dense forest and his hard to track. what kind of support is the
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intelligence and how do you go up against a group in such a remote area? >> well, you know, the area that i've been picking up is the size of west virginia. it's a jungle. it's probably even some of the tech no logical advances we have predators are not going to be useful in these areas because of the terrain. so the assistance teams we've sent forward are experts in the field and hostage investigation or intelligence, they are there to assist and advise the local government, not going to take an active participant role. the impact of this quote/unquote gesture, more of a symbolic gesture, they with do everything they can but this is a nigerian crisis. >> this new demand of a hostage negotiation, given your experience on that front, what's the risk in responding to those demands? >> this is how terrorist groups negotiate with the west or
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negotiate with the host government. they do kidnappings and this is nothing new. this happened many times even in iraq during the height of the kidnapping campaign. some hard core groups like al qaeda wanted to kill the kidnapped victims in particular if they are werners and americans in particular. even many of the hard core groups want to negotiate. they wouldn't publicly state they want to negotiate but usually done behind the scenes. this uptick in the social nemed, they are making public demands that we want our prisoners released. this is nothing new, this has been very common practice by these groups and bottom line is if they release -- if they release the hostage they are demanding or prisoners from boko haram they are managing, it will encourage more behavior. >> we have to hope the effort to bring back girls in the explosion of the hash tag doesn't give them a bigger world stage. thank you for your time. appreciate it. over to ukraine, another crisis
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seeing the obama administration walk a similar type rope for calls for intervention and justified fear that that kind of intervention can carry dark and hidden long-term costs. today russia called on the world to respect the results of a referendum in eastern ukraine. it condemned by ukraine's government as quote a criminal farce. a referendum conducted with no international monitors to verify the 90% who voted for sovereignty. a referendum beset by violent chaos. [ gunfire ] >> one person was killed in the ukrainian national guardsmen open fire on people waiting to cast ballots. what was russian president vladimir putin doing this weekend? this, the man known for bears
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and bare chest was playing hockey, so manly. joining me now is ayman, been covering this since the early protests in independence square. first of all, this referendum had one question on the ballot, do you support the act of state self-rule in donetsk. is that too vague a question? is this a lekt mat inquiry in the first place? >> it's one that is leaving a lot of people with questions on their mind. no pun intended. the truth of the matter is the president and prime minister of the country in kiev already expressed willingness to give the eastern part of the country autonomy, it seems premature to ask people if they want that in this referendum that's not nationally recognized and no indication it was properly held or international standards. more importantly, i think a lot of people voting weren't sure what they were voting on. does this mean independence? does this mean you're still part of ukraine? >> you break away and join
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russia? >> the vote was not on seck seeding to join russia, but on that interest, do you think the early reported results, regardless of how flawed the process was are accurate? are these people that want to self-rule snl. >> i don't think the polls are going to be necessarily inaccurate but the people turning up to vote were people predisposed to support the referendum. unless you know how many people in the eastern part of the country are eligible to vote, doing so in an environment where there wasn't a high presence of intimidation and fear, then it's really hard to answer and gauge accurately what the sentiment was. there was a pu research center poll that came out years ago that indicated 70% of the eastern part of the country wanted to remain part of ukraine. when you jux at a pose those together there's some kind of discrepancy between those that turned up to vote and those so doing so in the poll. >> does this rach et up pressure
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on the obama administration to act, do more than sanctions? >> it's one more crisis they have to deal with. but there's a central question, which is does the united states and its allies in western europe want the territorial integrity of ukraine to be preserved more so than what russia wants? >> are they willing to brave a whole lot of consequences, including ripple effects, thank you for that. why is senator marco rubio denying climate change? our political panel takes his temperature next. predicting the future is a pretty difficult thing to do. but, manufacturing in the united states means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources
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who are you thinking are? marco rubio hopes you didn't say jeb bush. rubio is the latest to come out swinging. >> it seems obvious, you're moving closer to running for prds. >> i've openly said in the past it's something i'll consider at the end of this year. >> do you think you're ready to be president? >> i think that's true for multiple other people that would want to run. >> then he lounged for a tiny pot bottle of water -- kidding. he did say hillary clinton has no right to brag about her job in state department. >> if you look at her diplomacy, it failed everywhere in the world. >> harsh. >> and the "washington post" looks at another spanish speaking floridian republican, whether his family is on board. jeb bush has repeatedly said he will decide based on whether he believes he can run in an optimistic campaign. run jointly as he's put it as
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well as whether a campaign would be the right thing for his family. florida isn't seen this much action since the hanging chad area. i want to bring in bob shrum and robert trayhnum. off the bat, who really has the strength to go the distance on this, bush or rubio? >> that's a really good question. i would say jeb bush has the upper hand, a famous last name and no stranger to presidential campaigns and his father has run two or three times now. i would say jeb bush probably is the better candidate if you will. but i would say marco rubio is more attractive giving his latino background. >> just attractive, better looking -- no, i know -- >> not physically. >> another person that thinks he's in better shape, across the board, bob shrum. you think that jeb bush really has better prospects here. you talk about how they both stack up against hillary clinton
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and said in a recent article, it seems desperately hopeful on the part of republicans who can read bottom lines of general election polls and know despite the benghazi bashing of hillary, she leads every nominee national a len in battleground states. we know you think in that fight jeb bush is better equipped. but if hillary has to face against rubio, what's the tactic. >> rubio is in terms of getting the nomination. jeb bush is the favorite. he is going to run. the republican establishment is gathering him around. i don't know if you noticed, in that interview ronan, he gave himself a big out. he had to decide whether or not he could contribute more and achieve more by being in the senator in the white house. now, unless he's ted kennedy, that's a really strange argument, may give him a rationalization, i think he thinks bush is probably going to run and he's very concerned about what he can do under those circumstances. i think he knows he can't run. hillary clinton would do --
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>> his rhetoric has focused a lot on how there are other candidates in the field every time he's asked, yes i'm ready to run but there are others in the field ready to run. robert trayhnum, rubio gave hillary an f for her time in the state department. does he have foreign policy on his own to stand on? >> except for immigration, that's a little different from a legislative standpoint. if you take aa look at hillary clinton's record, it's a mixed bag. clearly she's going to run on her record and talk about the successes of the state department. however, there are some glaring remarks out there. if you look at the quote/unquote reset button that you know that the administration tried to reset with vladimir putin, that has failed. if you look at the issues as relates to benghazi and other things, there's questions as to whether or not hillary clinton was effective as secretary of state. one could make the argument that secretary kerry is more effective in his short tenure so
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far. >> they've had different focuses and the question is, does the selling point of hillary clinton's track record -- i was a part of that department, does it impress hard liners on the hill? her soft power and focus on women and youth and underrepresented parts of the diplomatic picture resonate? rubio also commented on climate challenge. >> how big a threat is climate change. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there, that signists that say there are actions that we can take today our climate is always changing. >> ut do not think the production of c oext2. >> i do not believe human activity is causing dramatic changes to the climate the way the scientists portray it and the laws we propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy. >> oh, boy, bob shrum, who is he
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speaking to with that? isn't the general electorate going to be turned off by that. >> jo think that helps with the general electorate at all. that's not az aim. not so long ago he was leading among republican contenders for the nomination and he fell apart, rubio, when he helped move immigration reform through the senate. so now he has to get right, far right with the republican base. he's become a 100% climate denier, you're going to see more and more of that and that will effect bush if he runs. he's going to feel a lot of pressure to move to the right to satisfy those rpz and eem have a long, hard, slog to the nomination but i suspect with the weight of money woe get it. if there's no real democratic race in new hampshire, for example, if hillary is the certain nominee, independents can go in and vote for bush but it's not going to be easy. they have to satisfy those litmus test. >> another piece of hillary
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news, her book is coming out, first audio from her audio book is hitting air waves. take a listen to one bit we found particularly moving in the office about her mother. >> having her so close became a source of great comfort to me, especially in the difficult period after the end of the 2008 campaign. i knew if she was still with us, she would be urging us too do the same. never rest on your laurels, never quit, never stop working to make the world a better place. that's our unfinished business. >> that resonates with my own experience with hillary clinton's devotion to her mother, something very apparent to people working around her. do you think that's enough to melt the coldest of gop hearts on hillary clinton? >> i thought it was very clever and appropriate that they release that on mother's day. i think it's an open secret that dorothy rodham was a positive person in her daughter's life. it's really about policy and whether or not hillary clinton is the best person to run this
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country and conservatives believe that is not the case. as relates to climate change, the next thing, whether being pro-life or pro-choice or the economy, you're going down the list, there are serious concerns that a lot just republicans but americans have about a clinton presidency. >> it's clear regardless that candidates going into the election will not be able to rest on mother's day. thanks so much, robert trayhnum and bob shrum. >> the defense department calls it -- hagel calls it a silly reason to keep people from serving their country. stay with us. last weekend. it made the difference between hearing about my daughter's gym meet, and being there. yeah! nailed it! i got back to doing what i love. that's my daughter. hi sweetie! gotta dial it back a little bit on the rock climbing. one weekend can make all the difference. unlike the bargain brand,
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passers by shouted he ruined the country. hank paulson said his signature policy pulled worse than torture and the president said he was treated like a fire hydrant. these are some barbs timothy gijener received. in the new book, stress test out today. geithner was tasked with the impossible, fixing an economy on the brink of collapse. his solution, to spend $700 billion of taxpayer money to bail out wall street's biggest banks as sparked populist fury. geithner said washington insiders warned him he may never be able to aswaj people's anger.
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>> the basic reality is that people wanted blood. and you could -- you could take your pick. you could take out your favorite investment banker and slit their throat in the alley and the next day people would want more. >> and he leaves behind an economy that's still not a clear cut victory. >> what do you make of where we are in the economy and what do you think of the markets? >> i think the country still has a lot of challenges and we have very high rates of poverty and tremendous increase in equality and americans as a whole feel less confident that they are going to be able to build a better life for their children. that's a -- that's a very hard thing still for the country. people have this tremendous loss of faith in the capacity political system to do anything about the challenges they face. >> joining me now is andrew ross sorkin and from "squawk box."
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was it necessary to bail out the economy? >> the answer is unee quifically yes but it was a polarizing decision. he is a polarizing figure for many. i think you have to define what the bailout was about. so did he save the system? yes. did he save the system as we know it? yes. but i think there's a lot of people out there that would say the system unto itself, at least as it exists today wasn't worth saving. >> should have been maybe torn down. one of the things that makes people particularly enraged, it seems no one went to jail. no individuals were held accountable. >> i did ask about that on the air and for the magazine and i don't want to say he disem bls, he says not in this business, not a prosecutor. he would argue as i probably would, there are a lot of people with incentive to prosecute,
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prosecutors wanted to make a name for themselves and authors would have loved to find a crime, sold more books. and the whole group of people struggle to find that person that embodied it -- we could find that person on a moral level, but on the actual crime, i'm afraid to say it's more challenging than i think we all wish, though i know there are people -- >> you don't think it is his responsibility to hold people accountable? >> from a criminal perspective it's impossible. he was the treasury secretary. could he have done more around compensation and could he have changed -- did he save the system? yes, once the system was saved when it came to reform, whether you wanted to break up the banks or support the rule or do all of these other things, did he transform the business? no, he did not. >> he's clearly aware of this critique because he's told you mill tim times that he's touting significant reforms. do you buy that? he says that wall street --
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there are now more protections against wall street. >> i think that wall street is safer today than it was then. the question is sort of how far do you want to take it? do you believe that wall street, the culture of wall street still has greed? absolutely. should the banks be smaller? i think there's a totally fair question to be asked about what toe do about that. >> when he touts significant reforms, he's talking about new tools under dodd frank and new ways to get into a company more readily if they are winding down and disaster happening. but those tools haven't been tested yet, have they? >> in truth, we have no idea when and if the you know what hits the fan, if we ever get to this horrible moment, to all of these rules and regulations and tools you created, will they prop up the system and be there. >> we could be just as vulnerable. >> i worry about we'll get to that horrible point and we will say we're not sure if the tools are going to work. maybe we should bail them but
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there won't be political will to do and that and then we'll be in the soup. >> the fight over tax hikes, accused glenn hubbard, the romney adviser of saying, yes, we actually support tax hikes but we can't say it right now, hubbard said he's lying. he can came out with a statement mr. geithner's memory is crystal clear and stands by his account in stress test. talking to ncnbc speaking to geithner's repz. if your viewers have a moment and go to vox.com. there was a story posted an hour and a half ago that finds a quote from hubbard in "the new york times" suggesting what he suggests to geithner. >> it seems like a fairly accurate temperature taking. there are establishment republicans who agree with symbols -- >> to some degree they recognize
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here's how the u.s. ranks in terms of minimum wage as a percentage of median wage. we're not dead last but we're pretty close, just two countries are less generous. you see it circled there. united states way, way in the bottom run. so what impact does that have on the lives of people on the wrong side of minimum wage. here to tell us firsthand is schaarika elliott, single mother who works as a terminal cleaner at jfk airport and from the national employment law project which advocate for low wage workers. thank you both for being here. >> how do you feel just this small increase in minimum wage would help change your life? >> a small increase would do a little, in all honesty, especially in new york city, it's not enough. >> recently actually the port authority board members voted to raise wages of all airport employees by a dollar.
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you feel that's not enough, right? >> it shows good faith but not enough by any means, that only gives me about $10 on my paycheck. >> you've been speaking out so eloquently and on the hill advocating for people like yourself, why they deserve more support. what have your bosses said about that activism? >> my direct bosses? my manager is actually supportive of it to be honest he's said quite a few times he's a union man so i haven't had much pushback from them. >> so you've got support at your workplace? i have. >> and too often we see not the case. what do you need to say because it's a big cost for businesses to raise minimum wage. >> a lot of employers, most employers are probably supportive of raising the minim minimum wage of there was a poll that found the majority supported raising the minimum
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wage. every one knows wages are stagnant are on the decline for the american workforce, so at the same time, the very, very wealthy view are making money hand over fist. there has to be -- and the minimum wage is so far below what it would have been had it just kept up with inflation. >> so far below anywhere else in the world. >> so far below everyone else in the world. everyone acknowledges that this growing gap and the fact that millions and millions of workers in this country make such low wages has an impact on whether or not we'll truly build a sustainable and healthy economic recovery. >> the idea is in franchising, people like you could actually boost the economy in the long run, even with the up front costs. let's talk about what needs to change politically for this. the democrats have been pushing legislation to hike up the minimum wage a bit. on the other side mitt romney came out in favor of raising the minimum wage. do you think the tide may turn on this plolitically? the vast majority of
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republicans, support raising the minimum wage. will congress act? there was a vote, 55 senators voted to proceed and allow the minimum wage and it failed because not enough elected officials listened to what voters are telling them, that they need to raise the minimum wage. states and cities are stepping up and doing it on their own. we've seen four states just in the last couple of months vote to raise the minimum wage. >> how have your children inspired you to keep up this fight? >> i mean, you have a child. i know people aren't particularly religious but in my faith jesus upholds children above anything. and our children are our future. if i'm not providing for my children, that's -- what's the point of life? that's pretty much my inspiration or else i would give up, it's always not about me. >> and you're fighting to make
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sure they have what they need to grow up. it's a moving story and clearly it's going national. there are protests all around the country. we'll keep with this all week. >> thursday will be a great day. >> thursday is the day of these big protests. stay tuned we'll have a lot of coverage of that. thank you, both of you. >> for our call to action, we're showing support for workers calling out for a living wage. we want you to join us and show your support on twitter and facebook using fastfood global because that protest thursday is based an fast food workers, the catalyst on that. let us know you've tweeted. last week we asked you to sign our letter to speaker boehner of the house calling for comprehensive immigration reform. 1300 of you signed this letter. and we are sending it today to speaker boehner. we'll let you know what we hear. just ahead the nfl drafts first openly gay player and donald sterling is not a racist. one of these things is not true.
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today all of america got to experience the joy of having a nasty old racist uncle -- or uncle don, are you racist? >> i'm not a racist. i made a terrible, terrible mistake. and i'm here with you today to apologize and ask for forgiveness for all the people that i've hurt. and i've hurt so many people, so many innocent people. and i've hurt myself. >> well, admitting is the first step. sterling's wife shelly gave her own exclusive to barbara walters and they seem like such a lovely tight-knit couple. >> do i like him or do i love him? >> i don't love him. i pity him and i feel sorry for
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him. >> she's fighting for her 50% share of the clippers but the nba said in a statement, under the nba constitution, in a controlling owners interest in terminated by 3/4 vote, all other team interest are terminated as well, doesn't matter as they are related. these are the rules which all nba owners agreed as a condition of their owning a team. as far as the allegation that donald sterling is a racist, here again is his lovely wife. >> it was horrible when i heard it. i mean, it was just degrading. and it made me sick to hear it. but as far as a racist, i don't really think he is a racist. >> right, right, don't post pictures of black people on instagram. shelly does plan to divorce donald. joining me now, co-host of the collision, etan thomas and
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numbers never lie. thank you for joining us. do you think sterling's apology is genuine? >> i think he is something else. that's what i think. he's trying to throw anything against the wall to see if it sticks. i've got dementia, don't really remember saying it, okay that didn't work. okay, i'm so sorry and trying to force out a tear but the tear wouldn't quite come out. and honestly well rehearsed in the middle of his heart felt apology he says he's not a good example for kids. donald sterling, you're not even apologizing the right way. say you're sorry and rush. the more he talks and puts the foot in the mouth and let you know exactly what his character is. >> i was so struck by that. he's going about it the wrong way if he's going to insult magic johnson in his apology. take a listen. >> he's great.
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but i just don't think he is a good example for the children of los angeles. >> etan, how exactly is magic johnson not a good example? >> i don't know. i honestly don't know. he said i made one little mistake and in my 35 years made one mistake. >> doesn't sound like that's accurate, long history of mistakes. >> not even acknowledging the things he did in the past in the discrimination lawsuit and people he hurt. this is one little mistake. >> giving him the benefit of the doubt, i'm sure it is an agonizing experience for him and his family but doesn't excuse apologizing so late in the game and in this way that is still no so great. shelly sterling is fighting for her ownership and called sexism on it if a wife of one of oernz made the comment like sterling did, would they oust the
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husband? do you think they would? >> she's glossing over the real issue, her own participation in some of the allegations of racism that have been lobbied at donald sterling, or did she forget the fact there's video of her posing >> i don't think there's a perception he was being a good fit as an owner. it has everything to do with the fact that she seemed to be a willing participant in some of the alleged racial incidents against donald sterling. >> the other big issue with prejudice and there are some interesting reactions to michael sam getting drafted. let's look at the attitudes within sports today. don jones of the miami dolphins created omg and horrible when the draft happened. he since deleted those tweets and apologized. dolphins did fine him and suspended him until he completes sensitivity training. meanwhile, former super bowl
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champ derek ward tweeted, "man, you got little kids looking at the draft. i can't believe espn allowed that to happen, referring to a kiss between michael sam and his partner." for all the outsider fanfare about acceptance, is the atmosphere missed the nfl still pretty prejudice? >> i don't think this is just about inside the nfl. this is about people, period. ehs whole lot different when you actually have to be confronted with the image of michael sam kissing his boyfriend or you're in a restaurant, and you see a gay couple engablging in public affection or michael sam is now a member of the rams and when they have a corporate function, he brings his boyfriend. see, there you are talking about something different. >> he is definitely signalled that he is not going to hold back. etan, we look at that footage. there's a really very sweet, very intimate moment between them. is that just standard behavior for people getting drafted?
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>> well, i think it's standard behavior, but as far as how much time they spent on it, you know, i don't really know how they do in the nfl. i know in the mba when i got drafted, i gave my wife a kiss -- she was my girlfriend at the time. >> similar behavior to what you are seeing here with michael sam? >> not to say that's not similar behavior. i'm hearing a lot of talk as far as people saying that the reason why he slipped so far in the draft was because and correlating that to him coming out of the closet. that's where i'm not all the way sure about. i look at the different things of the different numbers on the combine that came back. i look at the different people who have won heismans who weren't drafted, like charlie ward and jason smith from oklahoma, and jason gasser who was the offensive player of the year, and he didn't get drafted. sometimes there's different reasons where people didn't get drafted. wron if i would have a direct correlation between that and him coming out of the closet. >> well, what do you think? is he competitive on the field? i mean, the general reception seems to be that he is too small
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to play defensive and too slow to play outside linebacker. how is this team going to use him, do you think? >> i think is he definitely a tweener. there were some questions about whether or not given his combine, it wasn't -- he didn't have a good nfl combine. so there were some issues there. this is going to be tough for him to make the rams. they have a rotation of about eight defensive ends. they arguably have the best defensive line in football for first round draft picks. thank you so much, both of you. we'll have you back soon, and we want to end on this. one day after mother's day, first lady michelle obama got emotional talking about her own mother. here's what she said at a white house event later this morning. >> there was no way i would be standing up straight on my feet if it weren't for my mom who is always there to look after our
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girls, to love them and to be mad at me when i'm disciplining them, which i still don't get. same rules that we had when they were -- why are you so mean? but that's what grandpas are for. that's what she reminds me. oh, wrau. you got -- got an oh yeah. oh, yeah. but especially she's been that shoulder for me to lean on. i can always go up to her room and cry, complain, argue, and she just says go on back down there and do what you're supposed to do. >> sourld to lean on. i know a lot of us feel that way about our mothers. thank you, mom. huh to all the mothers out there watching. that was the first lady talking about her mother, the grandmother in chief. that wraps it up for rf daily. thank you all for joining me. you can catch me at 1:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. now it's time for the reid report with our mom in chief here at msnbc, joy reid. joy, what do you have coming up?
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>> thanks very much. we got a big show for you today. next on the reid report, new video and new demands from the group that kidnapped hundreds of nigerian girls, but should the government negotiate with terrorists? then we hear from donald sterling for the first time since the tape heard around the world, and what does he want? a second chance. ah. and not rand paul. does the gop have any other viable candidate for 2016. marco rubio thinks he has the answer for that. the reid report starts minutes from now. this is for real this . this is for real this . step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. that's a good thing,
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happy monday. this is the reid report for may 12th. our question, should nigeria negotiate with boko haram to free hundreds of kidnapped girls? >> the general rule is you don't negotiate with terrorists, but does that calculus change at all when you are talking about hundreds of little girls? >> these terrorists are the worst of the worst. >> the government of nigeria has no intention to pay -- >> we want the world to know that when you take girls in nigeria, you have taken them in new york. >> now, the video that you are looking at now was obtained by a french press, and it appears to show at least some of the kidnapped girls. there's also new video of the leader of boko harah making demands in exchange for the girls. what's next for nigeria and
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what's their next move as well as the international community's? we'll ask two security experts. plus, donald sterling says he made a terrible mistake. his wife says she thinks sterling has dimentia. all this as the clippers interim ceo prepares to talk to reporters. southern comfort, a new polling shows surprisingly strong showing for democrats in red states. first our top story, including what we know about the proof of life video that appears to show some of the kidnapped girls who were taken from their school in nigeria last month. the newly released footage shows what's estimated to be about 100 girls, some of whom appear to be forced to speak on camera condemning christianity and reciting muslim prayers. now, we're not showing the footage of the girls actually speaking individually, since it was clearly obtained in a hostage situation. the voted contains more than just images of what appear to be the kidnapped girls. boko haram leader also appears in the video making demands and threats and claiming the girls have been "converted